In Episode 9 of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten talks with Caitlin Donovan, burnout coach, author, speaker, and host of Fried: The Burnout Podcast. Cait shares the moment when she realized she was experiencing burnout despite doing “everything right” in her life and how being a lifelong nerd and an insanely curious person led to her book.Listen to hear why Cait knows the hex code for Pepsi blue, what she thinks the power of a good speaker is, and how the “tend and befriend” stress response is an important reason to have speaker friends.Key take-aways:How can you be burnt out if you’re doing everything right?What is the power of a good speaker?Why do speakers need to be aware of the “tend and befriend” stress response?Rourke Training’s webpage: https://www.rourketraining.com/Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking page: https://ongoing-mastery.captivate.fm/RSS feed: https://feeds.captivate.fm/ongoing-mastery/Read a transcript of this episode: https://share.descript.com/view/rXvWFem9vIECait Donovan's book: The Bouncebackability Factor: End Burnout, Gain Resilience, and Change the WorldTend-and-Befriend Response - Health Psychology - IResearchNetAMBIVERT | definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary - National Speakers Association, New York City Chapter | Grow Your Speaking Business | NSA NYCFried. The Burnout Podcast. - Cait's profile on LinkedInCait Donovan Burnout Expert. Burnout Coaching. Acupuncture in NYCHome | Innovation WomenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstenrourke/