Take some time with us to explore the Sino-Australian breakup drama and hear an honest opinion from a real life Australian (his name is John Fowler and he's a former Australian diplomat and international lawyer) on why relations between the two are slowly but surely deteriorating. John and Jacob also talk AUS/NZ relations, viewpoints on the South Pacific and much, much, much more. John is co-founder and CEO of International Intrigue, a newsletter at the intersection of geopolitics, business, and technology. We've included a link because you should go subscribe to it. TimeStamps:2:30-19:37 – Australia/China relations19:37-25:20 – Australia/New Zealand relations25:20-39:32 – The South Pacific39:32-46:30 – Indonesia46:30-57:57 – Latin America/France/Antarctica 57:59-1:05:30 – Taiwan1:05:30 – International IntrigueCognitive Investments Link