In this powerful role-reversal episode, Nicola Humber (founder of ⁠The Unbound Press⁠) takes the mic and interviews our host, Sarah Lloyd, on the very theme that underpins this podcast: shame.But this isn’t your typical interview! It’s a deep, raw, and beautifully honest conversation between two women who’ve dedicated their work to truth-telling and shadow-walking.In this episode, we explore:- Why shame chose Sarah, not the other way around- How Sarah’s PR background collided with her spiritual journey- The link between shame and external validation, especially for women- Personal stories of "not enough-ness," people-pleasing, and high heels at awards shows- How working with shame isn’t about having it all figured out, but staying with it, witnessing it, and transmuting it- What it really means to live shamelessly in parenting, in publishing, and in being seenSarah also shares:- The story behind Shame-less Stories, the podcast and upcoming book- Why no story is “too small” and how everyday shame shapes our lives- An open invitation for contributors who want to write, reflect, or share their own shame-to-shameless journeyWant to be part of the book?Sarah’s calling in diverse voices, real reflections, and messy, human truth-telling, from poetry to prose, from little shames to life-changing moments. If you feel the nudge, reach out to her directly ⁠⁠here⁠⁠ Key takeaway:We don’t need to be done with shame to do this work. We just need to be willing to face it, name it, and find our freedom through it.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-shame-less-stories-podcast--6513792/support.