In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten talks with Kristin N. Spencer, the Ghostwriting Copywriter and owner of Literary Symmetry. Kristin sees her job as listening carefully and pulling out key details in her clients’ stories, because everyone needs a coach to help them get out of their own way.Key take-aways:Know, like, and trust isn’t just a sales & marketing technique; it’s about building relationships The heart of Ongoing Mastery is to try, to fail, and to keep goingYou have to practice talking about your own failure, because clients won’t believe that you’re perfect anywayRourke Training’s webpage: https://www.rourketraining.com/Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking page: https://ongoing-mastery.captivate.fm/RSS feed: https://feeds.captivate.fm/ongoing-mastery/Read a transcript of this episode: https://share.descript.com/view/bma7i50vDB4For the video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/nJ5-KGTza9sKristin N. Spencer's LinkedIn profile - Literary Symmetry's YouTube channelLiterary Symmetry's TikTok profile - Literary Symmetry's Instagram - Literary Symmetry's Facebook page - Copyediting | UC San Diego Division of Extended Studies - Learning Styles as a Myth | Poorvu Center for Teaching and Learning | Yale UniversityWhat is speaker-listener neural coupling? - Alex HormoziCarla on the Food Network (who also loves glasses) - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstenrourke/Looking for a kick-ass speaking group? Use our affiliate link to join Innovation Women: https://bit.ly/innovationwomen