In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten and Kellie talk about current developments in their entrepreneurial journey. Find out why Kirsten’s rediscovered a database she built years ago and what it’s like for Kellie, who’s a partner in two separate start-ups right now.Our favorite moments:(00:36) Everything that changes is really good data for getting to your goals(03:26) If you’re a big picture person, you need a detail-oriented person on your team, because the little bits still need to be taken care of(07:35) Reframe failure as iterations(08:34) Even experienced entrepreneurs sometimes need to pivot(11:20) Self-care is crucial for entrepreneurs(13:15) Kirsten plays video games when she needs a break(13:52) Kellie rests by moving more, getting some form of exerciseIf you enjoyed this conversation about the entrepreneurial journey, check out Season 1, Episode 10, our wrap-up of season one that took an earlier look at how we came to be entrepreneurs at all. The link is in the show notes. Rourke Training’s webpage: https://www.rourketraining.com/Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking page: https://ongoing-mastery.captivate.fm/RSS feed: https://feeds.captivate.fm/ongoing-mastery/Read a transcript of this episode:  https://share.descript.com/view/NqQHWDlGiK7For the video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/UBcW52EOr6kS1 Ep 10 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking Season One Wrap-Up: What Did We Learn?Serial comma (aka Oxfrd comma) - WikipediaClickUp Productivity ToolKaren Blades' profile on LinkedInKirsten's video on using NotionNo Man's Sky video gameYMCA of the USA Home | Innovation WomenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstenrourke/Looking for a kick-ass speaking group? Use our affiliate link to join Innovation Women: https://bit.ly/innovationwomen