Summary In this episode, Phillip Wylie engages with David Malicoat and Vivek Ramachandran to discuss the evolving role of the Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) in today's cybersecurity landscape. They explore the unique challenges faced by CISOs, particularly in the context of direct marketing and data protection, the impact of AI and automation on security practices, and the limitations of traditional security solutions. The conversation also delves into the future challenges for CISOs and the importance of adapting to new threats in an increasingly digital world. Takeaways David Malicoat emphasizes the importance of understanding threats in the context of specific tools. The browser is becoming a critical endpoint for security measures. CISOs need to identify and address vulnerabilities among users. AI and automation are essential for scaling security efforts. Traditional security solutions often fall short in addressing modern threats. The demand for effective cybersecurity solutions is continuously increasing. CISOs must prioritize application security (AppSec) in their strategies. There is a need for better visibility into user behavior and security risks. The uptake of SASE solutions has not met expectations in the industry. Future cybersecurity strategies must focus on browser security and threat detection. Sound Bites "The uptake on SASE just hasn't been there." "I need to understand how that threat looks." "We need to make AppSec a priority." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the CISO Perspective 09:38 The Journey into Cybersecurity and Podcasting 13:52 Challenges in Direct Marketing and Data Protection 18:46 Addressing Browser-Based Vulnerabilities 22:09 Enhancing Security Awareness Training 23:13 AI and Automation in Cybersecurity 26:36 Navigating Risks with AI Tools 27:33 Browser DLP: A New Approach to Security 31:23 Limitations of Traditional Security Solutions 32:27 The Evolution of Secure Web Gateways 35:53 Architectural Vulnerabilities in Web Security 40:00 Challenges Faced by CISOs 41:43 Future Directions for Square X and Browser Security Resources Get your free Chrome plugin: ⁠⁠⁠http://sqrx.io/pw_x⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/getsquarex/⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/getsquarex⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/getsquarex/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-malicoat-cissp/ https://www.theprofessionalciso.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/vivekramachandran/