Johnny sits down with Tim Goergen (ex-vocalist of Within the Ruins) and Nikki Simpson (tattoo artist & host of Ink Master Angels) in New York City to explore some of the pressures that come along with avoiding codependent patterns in a healthy relationship, finding new sources of creativity and happiness when the unexpected happens, and starting their own tattoo shop (EverBlack Tattoo Studio) moments before it's shut down by a global pandemic.To learn more about Cope Notes and try it out for yourself, text COPE to 33222 or visit copenotes.com