Sea Shepherd Captain, Paul Watson (@CaptPaulWatson), talks with Mark Leiren-Young (@leirenyoung) about Seaspiracy, life as an outlaw and as a movie star, the impact of Covid on life in the oceans and whether whales are more intelligent than we are. Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas. Join the Pod……https://www.patreon.com/mobydoll Spotify……………www.bit.ly/spotify-skaana Apple Podcasts………www.skaana.ca The Orca Bites Podcast (on anchor) ………www.orcabites.com – Skaana home……www.skaana.org Skaana on Medium……www.orcatales.com Our Latest Orca Videos…www.jpod.news – Facebook…………https://www.facebook.com/skaanapod/ Twitter……………https://twitter.com/leirenyoung Instagram…………https://www.instagram.com/skaanapod/ Support Our Guest Twitter: @CaptPaulWatson Instagram: @captainpaulwatson Books: https://bookpubco.com/content/captain-paul-watson Berke Breathed’s original drawing of Opus, the Penguin – used to illustrate Mark Leiren-Young’s poem Operation Dessert Storm in the Sea Shepherd newsletter. Excerpts from Orcapedia Kiska: https://medium.com/skaana/kiskas-story-from-orcapedia-by-paul-watson-tiffany-humphrey-27ec43dd0a19  Corky 2: https://medium.com/skaana/corky-ii-from-orcapedia-by-paul-watson-tiffany-humphrey-c829a9f596e8 Miracle: https://medium.com/skaana/miracles-story-from-orcapedia-by-paul-watson-tiffany-humphrey-f2195ef99e80 Lolita: https://leirenyoung.medium.com/lolitas-story-from-orcapedia-by-paul-watson-tiffany-humphrey-78a2af9423d7 Mentioned Episodes: Alexandra Morton: https://www.skaana.org/alexandra-morton/ Julia Barnes: https://www.skaana.org/bright-green-lies/ Sea Shepherd Conservation Society Twitter: @SeaShepherdSSCS Website: www.seashepherd.org Instagram: @seashepherdsscs LinkedIn: Sea Shepherd Conservation Society Sea Shepherd Global Facebook:@seashepherdglobal Twitter:@seashepherd Website: www.seashepherdglobal.org Instagram:@seashepherd YouTube: Sea Shepherd Sea Shepherd Legal Facebook: @seashepherdlegal.org Twitter: @SeaShepherdLaw Website: www.seashepherdlegal.org Books on Amazon and Classes **Amazon links are affiliate links and support our podcast, thanks for clicking!   The Killer Whale Who Changed the World… http://amzn.to/2pRNU1q   Orcas Everywhere… http://www.orcaseverywhere.com   Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu… digital-enlightenment.net The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://books2read.com/forceofdoubt TIME CODES 4:38– How Covid has effected the Sea Shepherd and the oceans 4:52– “There has been an increase in poaching.” 6:52– His new book, Orcapedia 7:10– “What we’re talking about here is an international slave trade where the orcas are the new slaves.” 8:36– “The orcas in captivity have names and therefore we tend to relate to them more so than the ones that are in the wild.” 10:13– Tilikum’s story 13:41– How Watson fell for whales. 13:58– “To me whales are highly intelligent, very social, self-aware sentient beings and I think, in many cases, they’re probably more intelligent than we are.” 17:20–  The backlash to Seaspiracy 17:30– “The fishing industry’s very powerful and they throw a lot of money into their PR machines.” 20:55–   “What we really need is a tuna-free tuna.” 21:12–   “You can find scientists who will defend any side of an argument. I call them “biostitutes,” when they’re working for the industry.” 23:36– “A good percentage of the fishing industry is strictly, completely illegal – unregulated and uncontrolled.” 27:10– How his movie Watson happened. 29:04– Selling his life story – a lot.