Summary  In this episode of the Phillip Wylie Show, Mishaal Khan shares his journey from a curious child assembling computers to becoming an expert in OSINT and pen testing. He discusses the importance of OSINT in various fields, the transition to consulting and virtual CISO roles, and offers valuable advice for aspiring CISOs. Mishaal also highlights the impact of AI on cybersecurity and emphasizes the importance of passion over monetary gain in one's career.  Takeaways  Mishaal's journey began with a curiosity about computers and programming.  OSINT can be applied in various fields beyond cybersecurity.  Practical experience is crucial for learning OSINT techniques.  Social engineering is a key component of successful pen testing.  Free tools can be just as effective as paid ones in OSINT.  Transitioning to a consulting role requires a blend of technical and managerial skills.  Understanding risk is essential for aspiring CISOs.  Training should focus on practical applications and real-world scenarios.  AI can enhance productivity but is not a replacement for human skills.  Pursuing passion in your career leads to greater satisfaction and success.  Sound Bites  "Do OSINT on yourself first."  "I can do it in an hour if you allow me."  "AI is not going to take over the world."  Chapters  00:00 Introduction to Mishaal Khan  04:43 Mishaal's Hacker Origin Story  06:34 Getting Started in OSINT  11:33 The Role of OSINT in Pen Testing  18:49 Transitioning to Consulting and Virtual CISO  26:43 Advice for Aspiring CISOs  33:00 Training and Educational Initiatives  36:02 The Impact of AI on Cybersecurity  40:32 Final Thoughts and Advice  Resources  https://www.mishaalkhan.com  https://www.linkedin.com/in/mish-aal/  https://x.com/mish3alkhan