In this episode Edwina explores the language of criminology with Penelope Gibbs, a champion of improvements to the UK justice system and the founder of charity organisation Transform Justice. Transform JusticeTwitter:@PenelopeGibbs2One Small ThingTwitter:@OSTCharityThis podcast series is recorded, produced and edited by The London Podcast Company & Pencil Agency. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.