Recorded 11/9/24Matt and Omar listen to Coil, play Chutes & Ladders in the South Bay Galleria, and head over to San Pedro, having a wide-ranging conversation on Omar's experience at Willenberg CTC, his upcoming debut AN ODYSSEY OF DINGBATS! (out in 2025 on the incipient New Ritual Press), malls, attending literary events, and much more.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.