Jonathan Mesulam @MesulamJonathan Founder and Coordinator of the West Coast Development Foundation in New Guinea talks with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young @leirenyoung about the crucial fight to stop Deep Sea Mining in his home – New Guinea – and around the world. Shownotes: 5:00 Welcome to Jonathan Mesulam 10:00 The importance of the church in fighting sea bed mining in New Guinea 12:20 Calling out Canada for allowing Canadian companies to mine in the waters off other countries 14:49 “No one knows the risk.” 16:23 On displacing communities. “If the sea is destroyed where are people going to get food?” 21:40 On leaving teaching to fight for the oceans. 25:12 “This fight is not really about us, it’s about everyone.” 27:00 All the places the sign we carried has traveled. 28:32 What he’d like Canadians to do. “We’re looking at the Pacific Ocean and it’s connecting you and me.Any activity on the Pacific Ocean is going to affect your coastline as well. The sea has no boundary… Canadians really need to speak up… Canadians should say no to sea bed mining… This project is a Canadian initiation.” Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas. Join the Pod……https://www.patreon.com/mobydoll Spotify……………www.bit.ly/spotify-skaana Apple Podcasts………www.skaana.ca The Orca Bites Podcast (on anchor)………www.orcabites.com – Skaana home……www.skaana.org Skaana on Medium……www.orcatales.com Our Latest Orca Videos…www.jpod.news – Facebook…………https://www.facebook.com/skaanapod/ Twitter……………https://twitter.com/leirenyoung Instagram…………https://www.instagram.com/skaanapod/ Support Our Guest Facebook: www.facebook.com/FrontLineDefenders Twitter: www.twitter.com/FrontLineHRD YouTube: www.youtube.com/FrontLineHRD Business & Human Rights Resource Centre Interview: https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/blog/interview-with-jonathan-mesulam-papua-new-guinea-png/ For more on how to stop Deep Sea Mining Stop Deep Sea Mining https://www.stopdeepseamining.ca/ The Pacific Blue Line https://www.pacificblueline.org/ DSMC: Deep Sea Mining Campaign https://dsm-campaign.org/home/ For more on Jonathan Mesulam https://www.frontlinedefenders.org/en/profile/jonathan-mesulam Books on Amazon and Classes **Amazon links are affiliate links and support our podcast, thanks for clicking!   The Killer Whale Who Changed the World… http://amzn.to/2pRNU1q   Orcas Everywhere… http://www.orcaseverywhere.com   Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://orcapaint.net   The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://books2read.com/forceofdoubt