Bella Mackie joins Gaby for a natter about all things joy. They discuss her new novel and why she has been working on it for such a long time. She also reveals how her Dad is very instrumental in the writing process! There's also a bit of running chat too - and some good mental health advice as well. You can find out more about Bella's new novel hereAnd see Gaby and Bella being a bit silly over on her instagram! (you can also follow Bella too) We hope you enjoy the episode! (and if you do, please like, follow and subscribe - and leave us a little comment too. Remember, we also have a YouTube channel now as well, so you can watch the podcasts if you so desire...) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.