Apple’s China story is more than a business case — it’s a mirror of globalization itself.In this eye-opening conversation, Patrick McGee, Financial Times journalist and author of Apple in China, sits down with Pankaj Agarwal to explore how Apple’s greatest triumph became its biggest challenge. In this episode:How Apple helped build modern ChinaThe lessons India must learn as it becomes Apple’s next manufacturing hubThe trade-offs between innovation, control, and national interestsWhat this means for founders, investors, and policymakers shaping India’s tech future Episode Timestamps00:00 – Introduction01:11 – Why Patrick Wrote Apple in China03:33 – How Apple Ended Up in China06:25 – Researching the Untold Story08:21 – The Three Phases of Apple in China11:03 – Lessons for Founders on Supply Chains12:26 – The ‘Siren Song’ of China13:13 – Apple’s Moral Dilemmas and Trade-offs16:27 – Innovation, Arrogance & Plateau19:04 – The Economics of Dependence22:27 – What Can India Learn from China?23:53 – Why Does Apple Need India?25:45 – Are iPhones Made in India?26:55 – The Future of Globalization & Supply Chains31:31 – Why Should You Read Apple in China A conversation for those who think beyond valuations — about strategy, sovereignty, and the soul of global business. Full episode out now on YouTube, Spotify & Apple Podcasts.#PrimePodcasts #PatrickMcGee #AppleInChina #GlobalBusiness #IndiaStartups #Leadership #TechGeopolitics #Apple #China #PrimeVenturePartners