Andrew Lewin – host of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast – on Jaws vs. sharks, orcas vs. sharks, Asian carp and working with and against Canada’s department of Fisheries and Oceans and how young people can and do change the world. “There’s nothing scarier to a government than young people who care.” – Andrew Lewin Shownotes: 4:35 Andrew Lewin on how Jaws still defines and defames sharks. Growing up on Jaws. “I was petrified to go in a pool… the original movie is still scary.” 9:44 Orca – A killer whale monster movie. “If anyone is gonna have revenge, orcas would do it.” 13:10 Explaining the Department of Fisheries and Oceans – “an interesting contradiction” and the Cohen Report vs. The DFO. 20:18 Were Canadian scientists really unmuzzled by the Canadian government? 20:48 Working for the DFO and sharing the stories of endangered carp. 23:08  “We protect what we love.” Andrew Lewin 25:40  “It takes a lot to get scientists crying.” Andrew Lewin 26:10 How documentaries duck solutions.”Tell them how to fix it… We don’t talk enough about conservation projects. We don’t talk enough about policy… There is nothing scarier than a motivated child who wants to protect the environment.” Andrew Lewin 27:50  “There’s nothing scarier to a government than young people who care.” Andrew Lewin 28:40  On decolonizing conservation. Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas. Skaana homepage Mark’s homepage Join and support the Pod at Patreon Subscribe to the Skaana newsletter Subscribe to Mark Leiren-Young’s newsletter Spotify Apple The Orca Bites Podcast (on anchor) Skaana on Medium……www.orcatales.com Skaana on social media: Facebook Bluesky Instagram Mark on social media: Facebook Instagram Threads Andrew Lewin Support Our Guest Speak up for Blue Podcast Network How to Protect the Ocean: Spotify How to Protect the Ocean: Apple Facebook Instagram Threads Books and classes for sale from Team Skaana **Amazon links are affiliate links and support our podcast, thanks for clicking!** Octopus Ocean by Mark Leiren-Young Sharks Forever by Mark Leiren-Young Audiobooks by Mark Leiren-Young (Killer Whale Who Changed the World, Orcas Everywhere & Never Shoot a Stampede Queen) on Audible.com The Killer Whale Who Changed the World – print and e-book The Killer Whale Who Changed the World on Spotify Orcas Everywhere on Spotify Orcas Everywhere; Orcas of the Salish Sea & Big Whales, Small World  Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu