Dr. Joe Rigney is Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrews College and Associate Pastor at Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho. Joe and Brian discuss the world’s view of empathy, the “progressive gaze” and what it means to live sober-minded in an anxious world. Links & Episode Notes Dr. Joe Rigney Joe Rigney (@joe_rigney) / Posts / X Leadership and Emotional Sabotage The Sin of Empathy Brené Brown Living under the progressive gaze | WORLD The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis The Four Loves by C.S. Lewis Canon PlusPromo code: JOE99 for one month at 99 cents Scripture References John 1 Ephesians 5 1 Peter 5