Jacob Shapiro sits down with David Judson to discuss the geopolitical realm of nation vs city states. They entertain ideas around disbanding entirely with the nation-state model, and explore water as a source of international interconnectedness. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any new episodes!  We put out new videos every other MondayQuestions:info@perchperspectives.comSocials:Twitter: https://twitter.com/PerchSpectivesLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/perc...Website: https://perchperspectives.com/