How do you even start to be a non-drinker? For some, you may want to test the waters first. In this episode Cait sits down with author of The Dry Challenge, Hilary Sheinbaum. Hilary created this how to guide after a friend made a bet with her in 2017. She's learned so much since then and the two discuss it all. Get The Dry Challenge here Want to join me for a better drink? drinkfreespirits.com use code CLEARHEADED20 for 20% off your first purchase *one time use per person * --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/cait-madry/support