To better understand Lorenzo and Schweickert, their possible other crimes, and their MOs and victimology, Josh chats with clinical psychologist Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential) about killers who work in pairs, BDSM, Antisocial Personality Disorder, psychopathy, narcissism, and how homophobia made their ongoing crimes possible. Plus: The Warrior gene, behavioral drift, Kanye West, Anita Bryant, and more. Next episode: 1 February 2024 This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark Featuring: Dr. Scott from the LA Not So Confidential podcast This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothandMusic by: Color Book, Yehezkel Raz, Adi Goldstein, Infinity Lab, and Yotam Agam Featured music by: Perfume Genius