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S2E9: You Make The Sun: Natalie Kuhn's Journey of Burnout, Belonging, and Becoming

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Episode  ·  1:08:25  ·  Sep 22, 2025

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Watch &#38; Subscribe on YouTubeIn this episode, Paige engages in a dynamic conversation with Natalie, exploring themes of presence, mindfulness, and transformation. They share personal anecdotes about balancing professional and personal life, the significance of presence in various aspects of life, and the journey of navigating and managing stress. Natalie talks about her work with 'Make the Sun,' an initiative designed to help individuals meet their circumstances with vitality and aliveness, and her experience with 'The Class,' a movement-based workout that integrates emotional and physical expression. They also discuss Natalie's interfaith seminary studies, emphasizing a holistic and interconnected view of spirituality. Throughout, they emphasize the importance of internal practices like deep breathing and self-compassion to maintain balance and navigate life's challenges. The conversation is filled with warmth, humor, and deep insights into personal development and spiritual growth.What We Explored This Episode00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene01:02 Exploring 'Make the Sun' Concept03:42 Personal Journey and Early Influences06:23 The Role of Movement and Expression07:51 From Theater to Rock Bands10:38 The Birth of 'The Class'13:49 Leadership and Personal Growth22:43 Navigating Challenges and Change29:06 The Evolution of Acceptance and Stress Management30:14 The Concept of Rate of Recovery32:33 Self-Compassion and Avoiding Burnout38:01 The Practice of Belly Breathing44:26 Balancing Multiple Life Tracks47:04 Exploring Faith and Spirituality52:01 The Five Element Prayer54:56 The Universality of Human Connection58:01 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsMemorable Quotes"It’s not a one size fits all thing. Physical patterns have created behavior – the physical body and our behaviors manifest each other.""I read this quote the other day that was a full mic drop, stop me in my tracks, life won’t be the same. And it was - you don’t have to burn out to show you care.Resources MentionedThe Class: https://www.theclass.com/David Byrne rockumentary: https://www.davidbyrne.com/explore/ride-rise-roarDavid Whyte, Author: https://davidwhyte.com/John O’Donohue, Poet &#38; Philosopher: https://www.johnodonohue.com/Connect with NatalieWebsite - www.youmakethesun.comLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisnatalie/Instagram - @thisisnatalieConnect with PaigeWebsite - https://paigenolan.com/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwriteFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriterLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/️Music by Boyd McDonnellCover art photography by Innis CaseyPodcast production &#38; marketing by <a href="https://northnode.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

1h 8m 25s  ·  Sep 22, 2025

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