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Music Business ghost drumming. Being a ghost in the machine.

Wait What Really OK with Loren Weisman

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I cannot take credit for close to eighty percent of the recordings I played on. That was the deal. This episode is what ghost drumming was, how it worked, why I signed away my name starting in 1993, and what it taught me about messaging, credit and vetting. I share the first session, when a producer named Earl told me I would never be a rock star with my look but I could be on the albums, and why staying quiet, showing up on time and knowing what to play for the song, not for my chops, got me the work. I share the drummer in a 90s band who could not play his own parts, the session player who cut them and then taught him, and the humility it took on both sides. I also share the toxic thread that started this, the accusation that ghosts were destroying bands, and my answer: check your contract. If the label is paying for a record at a certain level, replacing a part is not a betrayal, it is the deal you signed. The messaging side: someone can build your brand in a voice that has nothing to do with you, the way a session player can play a part the band can never perform live. Get the people who can find your song. And the credit side: I got credit in the circles that gave me work, not from the masses, and the people screaming their accolades from the mountaintop often turn out to be the biggest liabilities. Last, the vetting. I have read books describing sessions I sat in that never happened as written. Before you copy anyone's story, look a little deeper. It may be the story they wanted told. Written transcription, chapters and links: https://lorenweisman.com/2025/01/01/ghost-drummer-transcription/Wait What Really OK is hosted by brand communications and optics strategist Loren Weisman.Episode pages with written transcriptions: https://lorenweisman.com/wait-what-really-ok/About Loren: https://lorenweisman.com/about-loren-weisman/Speaking: https://lorenweisman.com/speaking/Services: https://lorenweisman.com/services/Be a guest: https://lorenweisman.com/podcast-guest-info/Contact: speaking@lorenweisman.comOpening theme by RKVC. Closing theme by Doug Hinrichs. Both licensed.© 2011 to 2026 Loren Weisman. All rights reserved.

23m 56s  ·  Jun 26, 2020

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