Silence can seem quite frightening to many people - but not Erling Kagge. You wouldn't think the explorer, lawyer, art collector, entrepreneur, politician, author and publisher has any time on his hands to sit in silence but, as he tells Fearne, that's the secret of his many successes.For 25% off your first 4 boxes at Mindful Chef, plus a free recipe book from its founders Myles & Giles, go to mindfulchef.com/HAPPYPLACE or use the code HAPPYPLACE at checkout. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.