
Episode 193: Tom Emery on Evolution of the CHRO
SHINY HAPPY PEOPLE with Vinay Kumar
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Episode · 52:23 · Sep 3, 2026
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Send us Fan MailA people performance partner who is passionate about effective HR teams – that’s our guest today, the best-selling author, Tom Emery in his own words. Founder and CEO of HEX, and a strategic partner to CEOs, CPOs, and other c-suite leaders, Tom is the Amazon bestselling author of ‘People People: Reach Your Full Potential as a CHRO’, which has been shortlisted for the 2026 Business Book Awards. Having spent several years on the C-suite as a Chief People Officer in both UK PLC and a PE backed businesses, Tom brings in a detailed knowledge of what it looks like when executive teams are firing on all cylinders, and when they’re not. He brings these insights to his work today, partnering with CEOs to build, align, and strengthen the leadership teams and wider organisations around them. He helps CEOs make sense of their roles, have the conversations that others avoid, and close the gap between how they behave and what their businesses actually need from them. Hit play for the lowdown on his journey. [4:38s] Tom’s origin story – journey into HR [08:28s] Top evolutionary shifts in HR [16:51s] On his book ‘People People’, the ‘four-leaf clover’ framework for CHROs and more[26:41s] Content versus context, AI versus NI (natural intelligence) [34:44s] Top challenges HR leaders facing today [46:35s] RWL READ: ‘Atomic Habits’by James Clear; books by Adam Grant; ‘Dare to Lead’ by Brené Brown; ‘Luck Factor’ by Dr. Richard Wiseman More on Tom’s work at www.hex-development.com Connect with Tom on LinkedInConnect with Vinay on LinkedIn What did you think about this episode? What would you like to hear more about? Or simply, write in and say hello! podcast@c2cod.comSubscribe to us on your favorite platforms – Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Tune In Alexa, Amazon Music, Pandora, TuneIn + Alexa, Stitcher, Jio Saavn and more. This podcast is sponsored by C2C-OD, your Organizational Development consulting partner ‘Bringing People and Strategy Together’. Follow @c2cod on Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook
52m 23s · Sep 3, 2026
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