Dr. Gregory Tucker was a Clinical Psychologist who woke up when he read Wei Wu Wei's "Open Secret," one of eight books Terence Gray wrote between 1958 and 1974. The shift from the lie, right now is real, to the truth, right now is only a Mind generated dream, made him confront the fact "Psychotherapy" is not a people-based event, but only a dreamer-based event, in which the dream features all the problems the dreamer in the dream deals with in the process of defending the fiction it is 'the person' it portrays in the dream. Waking up occurs exactly as fast as the dreamer in the dream surrenders to the fact it can only be a dreamer in this dream, somewhere with that fact, and probably filling time defending the lie it is some kind of a person, and more likely than not, a less than okay person. Seeing 'the truth' prompted Greg to stop working with 'people' to work with the suffering dreamers endure defending the fiction they are people. He calls what he does, "The Recovery Process," which assists dreamers to identify that suffering is a function of defending a lie as if it is a fact. He has never looked back since that 'fateful' day in the dream. Interview recorded November 11, 2010. YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction and Background 00:04:42 - The Nature of Enlightenment and the Evolution of Consciousness 00:10:22 - The Inevitable Growth of Consciousness 00:15:56 - The Perspective of Christ on Suffering 00:20:17 - The Intrigue of the Shift 00:23:58 - The Search for Truth and Reconnecting with Alignment 00:27:39 - The Truth Behind Impersonation and Amnesia 00:30:55 - The Paradox of Working with Invented Selves 00:34:34 - The Dilemma of Working with Clients 00:37:44 - Letting go of the lie of being a person in a dream 00:40:35 - The Dreaming Mind and the Illusion of Being a Person 00:43:52 - The Language of the Dream Mind 00:47:26 - Levels of Delusion and Enlightenment 00:50:50 - The Dreamer and the Dream 00:53:53 - The Illusion of Being a Person 00:57:26 - Using Suffering as Proof of Personhood 01:00:46 - The Relative Nature of Things 01:04:36 - The Levels of Reality 01:07:28 - The Nature of Mind and Consciousness 01:10:55 - Dissolving the Self 01:14:37 - Perspectives in Buddhism and Hinduism 01:18:27 - The Importance of Awakening and Enlightenment 01:22:11 - The Essence of Humor and Waking Up to the Dream 01:25:40 - Seeing Others as Dreamers 01:29:29 - Awakening Beyond the Dream 01:33:46 - Getting Out of Suffering and Articulating the Experience 01:37:40 - Playing the Part of a Loser 01:41:16 - The Fear of Truth in the Prison of Illusion 01:45:11 - Exploring Different Languages of Perception 01:48:36 - Hedging Bets and the End of Time 01:52:11 - Wrapping Up: Next Guest Announcement