CJ Liu interviews Shai Tubali about his new book. One of the secrets in Shai’s book is Freedom for Forgiveness. We talk about the recent violence in the Middle East and Shai’s experience living there for 33 years. Shai describes his experience as becoming immune and toughened up after experiencing 3 periods of unrest and living in a war zone. It’s during these periods of conflict that Shai cautions that we not perceive this situation through our divided heart.Fire It Up With CJ Podcast is brought to you by Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com/) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com).